Embrace Being the Dumbest Person in the Room (ft. Johnathan Gryzbowski w/ Penji) | Episode 151

Written by Jake Hundley
Published on April 17, 2025

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Johnathan Gryzbowski from Penji joins us on this week’s episode. An episode that was meant to go deep into creating an agency where 100% of the services are whitelabeled through Penji’s graphic design capabilities turned into a deep discussion on letting go of the subject matter expertise vine.

We went deep into how to build a great team and how to feel when you’re no longer the smartest person in the room… in fact, in most cases, you should probably be the dumbest person in the room at your own company.

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Want to reach out to Johanathan directly? Hit him up at johnathan@penji.co

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